Kinaa 0 #1 May 17, 2003 Is this a lineover that was cleared by self in opening procedure? The jumps are in this movie, at 41s of movie and in another jump at 3:11. The movie is "Gato" from headdown.net Thanks, I.P. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #2 May 18, 2003 The first one does look like a self cleared line over to me. The second just looks like a squirrely inflation, aided by the short delay, slider, and heavy crosswind. I'm not sure, though. Any other opinions?-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #3 May 18, 2003 QuoteThe first one does look like a self cleared line over to me. The second just looks like a squirrely inflationQuote i would say the same Stay safe Stefan Faber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites andy2 0 #4 May 18, 2003 I have a question about line overs in BASE. With skydiving you are taught to pump or flare your toggles attempting to clear the line, or drag it off the top of the canopy. If this doesn't work then some suggest cutting the line depending on how high you are, and what line it is. Others suggest just cutting away and pulling your reserve. Of course, most BASE jumpers don't have two parachutes, so cutting away isnt an option. What do you do in line overs? I know this is pretty vague, but do you take the time to flare the toggles, hoping the line will "fall off", or do you go straight for your hook knife? Does it depend on how high you are AGL? Or do you have one planned procedure for line overs? Thanks! --------------------------------------------- let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme suggesting rhythm... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Faber 0 #5 May 18, 2003 just hold on to your hat and try to get the best option out of the shit you packedif its a slider off/down jump you could simply get rid of the line by let go at the pacticular toggle/line Slider up,cut the line if too low to react,land itmost cases you dont want the line to stay there so get rid of it..... Stay safe Stefan Faber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TomAiello 26 #6 May 18, 2003 Quote just hold on to your hat and try to get the best option out of the shit you packed This may be the simplest, best encapsulation of BASE emergency procedures I've ever heard. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TomAiello 26 #7 May 18, 2003 Many BASE jumpers have never experienced a BASE lineover, so there is very little practical response available to your question. Also, many BASE jumpers don't carry hook knives (although pretty much all the manufacturers recommend it, and I know I've used mine, I only know of one other case in which one has been used to clear a lineover in the BASE environment). QuoteWhat do you do in line overs? It totally depends on what is happening around you. If you are low, you may not have any time to deal. If the object is close to you, your first consideration is object strike. If the ground is close, your first consideration is landing (or, more likely, ground strike). QuoteI know this is pretty vague, but do you take the time to flare the toggles, hoping the line will "fall off", or do you go straight for your hook knife? On my lineover, I pumped the toggles twice, saw that it wouldn't clear, stabilized the canopy in flight away from the object, then used a hook knife to cut the toggle. You can see the video on the skydivingmovies.com server (it's pretty busy right now, but I'll try to post a link once I can get into it). QuoteDoes it depend on how high you are AGL? Completely--as well as other things. How fast is it spinning? Can you land it? Can you steer away from the object? I really like Faber's summary best--hang on to your hat, and deal with your sh!t.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kinaa 0 #8 May 24, 2003 Thanks for answers.I.P. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 0 Go To Topic Listing
andy2 0 #4 May 18, 2003 I have a question about line overs in BASE. With skydiving you are taught to pump or flare your toggles attempting to clear the line, or drag it off the top of the canopy. If this doesn't work then some suggest cutting the line depending on how high you are, and what line it is. Others suggest just cutting away and pulling your reserve. Of course, most BASE jumpers don't have two parachutes, so cutting away isnt an option. What do you do in line overs? I know this is pretty vague, but do you take the time to flare the toggles, hoping the line will "fall off", or do you go straight for your hook knife? Does it depend on how high you are AGL? Or do you have one planned procedure for line overs? Thanks! --------------------------------------------- let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme suggesting rhythm... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #5 May 18, 2003 just hold on to your hat and try to get the best option out of the shit you packedif its a slider off/down jump you could simply get rid of the line by let go at the pacticular toggle/line Slider up,cut the line if too low to react,land itmost cases you dont want the line to stay there so get rid of it..... Stay safe Stefan Faber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #6 May 18, 2003 Quote just hold on to your hat and try to get the best option out of the shit you packed This may be the simplest, best encapsulation of BASE emergency procedures I've ever heard. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #7 May 18, 2003 Many BASE jumpers have never experienced a BASE lineover, so there is very little practical response available to your question. Also, many BASE jumpers don't carry hook knives (although pretty much all the manufacturers recommend it, and I know I've used mine, I only know of one other case in which one has been used to clear a lineover in the BASE environment). QuoteWhat do you do in line overs? It totally depends on what is happening around you. If you are low, you may not have any time to deal. If the object is close to you, your first consideration is object strike. If the ground is close, your first consideration is landing (or, more likely, ground strike). QuoteI know this is pretty vague, but do you take the time to flare the toggles, hoping the line will "fall off", or do you go straight for your hook knife? On my lineover, I pumped the toggles twice, saw that it wouldn't clear, stabilized the canopy in flight away from the object, then used a hook knife to cut the toggle. You can see the video on the skydivingmovies.com server (it's pretty busy right now, but I'll try to post a link once I can get into it). QuoteDoes it depend on how high you are AGL? Completely--as well as other things. How fast is it spinning? Can you land it? Can you steer away from the object? I really like Faber's summary best--hang on to your hat, and deal with your sh!t.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
