DOCsa 0 #1 December 17, 2003 what on earth is psycho packing and could you pack a zp that way ,also why would you pack like that ??? _________________________________________ SO many places to jump so little time ! _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 December 17, 2003 Try a search. There have been a good number of threads about it with a lot of different opinions. You'll find all your answers from a search.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
panzwami 0 #3 December 17, 2003 Yeah, you can pack a ZP that way. Matt ----- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koz2000 1 #4 December 17, 2003 There a good article on precision's web site about the Psycho pack. There pics about a Xaos, 7cell ZP,and tandem canopy. Check it out. http://precision.aerodynamics.com/psycho/psycho_pack.htm Dave______________________________________________ - Does this small canopy make my balls look big? - J. Hayes - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveMO 0 #5 December 17, 2003 Quotewhy would you pack like that ??? People psycho pack simply because it is easier to control a slick ZP canopy when it’s rolled then when it’s s-folded. Some jumpers feel it is an unsafe packing method, though I have never heard a good explanation of why. I have psycho packed my Triathlon 160 and a Stiletto 150 for years, I have always had soft on heading openings. If you decide to try packing your canopy using this method just ask an instructor or rigger to watch you the first time or two. Stay safe, use the knowledge at your DZ to your advantage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeeeeeeFly 0 #6 December 17, 2003 I psycho pack because it makes for very soft openings on VX's and FX's. Where I have found pro packing these to be less than effective... "The edge ... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who know where it is are those that have gone over" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #7 December 17, 2003 Quotewhat on earth is psycho packing and could you pack a zp that way ,also why would you pack like that ??? Check PD's reply (3rd question from the top) here: http://performancedesigns.com/faq.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #8 December 17, 2003 Here's the text for those that don't feel like following the link: QuoteThe "psycho pack" is not really an entirely different packing method, it’s just a different bagging method. The first part of a “psycho pack,” the part that is done standing up, is identical to a regular PRO pack. The only difference is the technique used to fold the canopy and put it in the deployment bag. For this reason, “psycho packing,” which we could perhaps call “psycho bagging,” may or may not make a difference in the way your canopy opens. If the first part of the pack job is sloppy, then the opening may not be very good no matter how the canopy is put in the bag. Let’s suppose, however, that you do a good basic PRO pack but tend to lose control while bagging the canopy, and end with a mess by the time you make the first line stows. If “psycho bagging” helps keep your neat PRO pack under control while you put it in the bag, your openings may improve using this technique. We don't recommend the “psycho bagging” technique for a couple of reasons. For one thing, we feel there are easier ways to put the canopy in the bag that work just as well. We also do not think a canopy should be packed with a lot of material in front of the nose, which happens when you psycho pack. We’ve made test jumps on a number of our main canopies using a psycho pack, and the openings were acceptable. We also know of some customers using this method with our canopies who are happy with the results. So, you can use the “psycho bagging” technique with your PD main if you want, but it is not the method we recommend. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nightjumps 1 #9 December 17, 2003 If you decide to start psycho-packing.... Please pull and roll to minimze line slop at the end of the roll. Since there is a single twist in the lines from laying it down and the D-bag is put on "upside down," When you flip the D-bag back over and make one stow, run your fingers up through the middle of the lines while first learning to ensure you've "untwisted" the lines in the right direction... then you'll progress to making a visual check of the lines and eventually, it will become habit to flip the D-bag in the right direction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DOCsa 0 #10 December 18, 2003 thanx guys this forum is always a great help for new divers like meself _________________________________________ SO many places to jump so little time ! _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites PhillyKev 0 #11 December 19, 2003 Be careful when rolling that you keep the slider in place. I psycho packed a few times, and had a slammer of an opening that made me see stars. I think I may have pushed the slider down from the stops while rolling it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
AggieDave 6 #8 December 17, 2003 Here's the text for those that don't feel like following the link: QuoteThe "psycho pack" is not really an entirely different packing method, it’s just a different bagging method. The first part of a “psycho pack,” the part that is done standing up, is identical to a regular PRO pack. The only difference is the technique used to fold the canopy and put it in the deployment bag. For this reason, “psycho packing,” which we could perhaps call “psycho bagging,” may or may not make a difference in the way your canopy opens. If the first part of the pack job is sloppy, then the opening may not be very good no matter how the canopy is put in the bag. Let’s suppose, however, that you do a good basic PRO pack but tend to lose control while bagging the canopy, and end with a mess by the time you make the first line stows. If “psycho bagging” helps keep your neat PRO pack under control while you put it in the bag, your openings may improve using this technique. We don't recommend the “psycho bagging” technique for a couple of reasons. For one thing, we feel there are easier ways to put the canopy in the bag that work just as well. We also do not think a canopy should be packed with a lot of material in front of the nose, which happens when you psycho pack. We’ve made test jumps on a number of our main canopies using a psycho pack, and the openings were acceptable. We also know of some customers using this method with our canopies who are happy with the results. So, you can use the “psycho bagging” technique with your PD main if you want, but it is not the method we recommend. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nightjumps 1 #9 December 17, 2003 If you decide to start psycho-packing.... Please pull and roll to minimze line slop at the end of the roll. Since there is a single twist in the lines from laying it down and the D-bag is put on "upside down," When you flip the D-bag back over and make one stow, run your fingers up through the middle of the lines while first learning to ensure you've "untwisted" the lines in the right direction... then you'll progress to making a visual check of the lines and eventually, it will become habit to flip the D-bag in the right direction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DOCsa 0 #10 December 18, 2003 thanx guys this forum is always a great help for new divers like meself _________________________________________ SO many places to jump so little time ! _________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #11 December 19, 2003 Be careful when rolling that you keep the slider in place. I psycho packed a few times, and had a slammer of an opening that made me see stars. I think I may have pushed the slider down from the stops while rolling it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
