kiadog 0 #1 December 3, 2003 What can you tell me about this canopy. i have just been offered it and want to Know what type of canopy it is.I fly a blue track 140 at the min and have done 197 jumps and am quite current any info or advice will be well received..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 December 3, 2003 I absolutly love my Jedei 136. Mines got about 1200-1300 jumps on it now and it still flys great. Brian is getting my business on my next canopy unless something can out do his designs. Simply a Jedei is a fully elliptically canopy with airlocks. The serial number of your Jedei will help pin down exactly how it will fly. The Jedei platform was an ever changing design. It is rare to find two canopies that fly exactly the same since the design was constantly under revision. Basically the basic Jedei has a fast turn rate, a short - medium recovery arc and generally high front riser pressure. Very swoopable canopy. There are dozens of types of Jedei's out there... some with inner and outter stabalizers (I've got a few jumps on this design, its different), some of the original design, some with different line trims, some that are of the Sweptwing design, some that are of the pre-Samauri style, some that were only around for a few dozen canopies then that style went away. Lots of people don't like the high riser pressure, but its forces you to be on the ball if you want to time things right since there is no double pumping of the risers like some canopies can be done if you are too high. Currently only two places have the reline specs so either contact Paragone Rigging or Big Air directly to see how in trim the canopy is before you buy it. The charts they use are a little different so you need to get the history of the canopy to see if its been relined already and if so by whom. As to if you should fly it or not... a Jedei is in the same class as a Stiletto or a Crossfire. If your CCI would let you jump those then the Jedei might be an option. Also what loading will you have it at? And how current is quite current? Like all 197 jumps this year?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiadog 0 #3 December 3, 2003 I dont understand wing load I am 11.5 stone.The canopy is Quite new or I think its said to have only 50 jumps on it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pablito 0 #4 December 3, 2003 Phreezone gave you a great explanation about but he didn't mention that is a ground hungry canopy, I jumped one for about 100 jumps and I loved it. I went from the Jedei to a Vengance Airlock by PD (that PD used the airlock design from brian), then I went to a Samurai, I love Brian attitude towards design. The Jedei is a high performance wing and you have to be carefull with it. just my 2 cents. "If you don't overcome your fears they will overcome you first" Shady Monkey/6Segundos Rodriguez/AKA Pablito Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #5 December 3, 2003 Whats 11.5 stone in pounds? Wingloading is exit weight (body weight + rig+ jumpsuit+ shoes+everything) / sq footage of the canopy. If you weigh 200 pounds and are jumping a 200 sq ft canopy then your wing loading would be: (200 body+ 25 pound rig + 10 pounds for everything else) / 200 = 1.175 pounds per sq foot. How current are you? How long has it taken you to get those 200 jumps? The Jedei is an advanced canopy that is not for beginning or lower experience intermediate jumpers.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #6 December 3, 2003 QuoteI dont understand wing load I am 11.5 stone.The canopy is Quite new or I think its said to have only 50 jumps on it. Wing loading - weight per canopy (wing) area - usually given as pounds per sq foot. Does that sound more familiar now? Or did you really get to almost 200 jumps without knowing about / understanding something about wingloading? 11.5 stone on a 140 sq ft canopy is a very easy wingloading to calculate. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #7 December 3, 2003 Yeah... I think a brick sometimes has a better glide ratio then my Jedei. The canopy is pointed very steeply at the ground and until you learn to use the rear risers on long spots, its common to land off. The canopy also has a negitive recovery arc in turns. It was one of the first canopies to do this. It is an old design... but one thats still a lot of fun. Read up on airlocks and decide if they are for you or not. They are for me Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petetheladd 0 #8 December 3, 2003 1 stone = 14 lbs 11.5 stone = 161 lbs + 20 lbs gear = 181 WL = fully suspended weight/sq footage = 181/135 = 1.34 Is the blue track elliptical ? Aggressive for ~200 jumps esp if it also encompasses a change from square to elliptical Be carefull No, Not without incident Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
webracer 0 #9 December 4, 2003 The Jedei is an advanced canopy, and Brian suggests at least 300 jumps for the Samurai, which is a de-tuned Jedei (as far as diving performance). You want to wingload it at 1.34, which is a bit high for your experience, but acceptable for a more docile canopy if those at your dz who watch you think so. The Jedei is not docile. It is one of the most extreme ellipticals out there. I don't recommend it.Troy I am now free to exercise my downward mobility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
